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		<title>商业间谍案例</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[这是朋友遇到过的一个例子 一家美国500强企业，买下中国公司，没有换人，3年以后就被当地管理层掏空。他们在附近也是这样偷偷设个公司，然后从老公司里面偷销售，人员，设备。连他妈的的新公司人员的社保都是由老公司出。等500强请到职业经理人，已经为时太晚，局面已经无法收拾。他们还大胆到偷偷到500强的总部去偷了人家一条关键生产线的技术，回来仿照。居然还故伎重演，又找了另一家美国的500强B，来合资。 这是我自己见到的一个例子 一家德国机械制造业公司，在中国投资子公司，十几年都不愿把最新的技术图纸拿到中国来生产。因为欧美国家对中国企业防范的紧，普遍认为中国企业老是想偷技术，不劳而获，新机型都不在中国市场卖。老外知道，他们只有机会在中国买一台，而且接着会丢失东南亚和印度市场。同一家德国公司，在德国的展会上几个技术人员晚上不出展馆（德国不像中国的展览会，一到时间就赶人，不论参观者还是参展商，全赶出去。）夜深人静的时候跑到竞争对手的展位，把人家的机箱打开，把内部结构和零配件品牌型号全拍照下来。今年春节后两家欧洲公司合并了，不知道那几个技术人员还会不会继续炫耀当年这件事。 这是听一个朋友说的 在中国南方一家经营成功软件公司，为了获取竞争对手的信息，派人到竞争对手那里应聘，工作了三个月辞职，走之前把那家公司老总的硬盘COPY了。 再讲一个故事 一个老同学，做精细化工的，若干年前做到业内老大，很多人窥视他们的产品配方。有一哥们儿，每天坐在那家公司对面的大排档打望，结识了仓管员小妹妹，记下来所有进出货车车牌号，请供货商的司机吃饭，几个月后，拿着一份详细的配方物料清单请我同学吃饭，问我的同学，他应该怎么处理这个配方。]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>这是朋友遇到过的一个例子</strong><br />
一家美国500强企业，买下中国公司，没有换人，3年以后就被当地管理层掏空。他们在附近也是这样偷偷设个公司，然后从老公司里面偷销售，人员，设备。连他妈的的新公司人员的社保都是由老公司出。等500强请到职业经理人，已经为时太晚，局面已经无法收拾。他们还大胆到偷偷到500强的总部去偷了人家一条关键生产线的技术，回来仿照。居然还故伎重演，又找了另一家美国的500强B，来合资。 </p>
<p><strong>这是我自己见到的一个例子</strong><br />
一家德国机械制造业公司，在中国投资子公司，十几年都不愿把最新的技术图纸拿到中国来生产。因为欧美国家对中国企业防范的紧，普遍认为中国企业老是想偷技术，不劳而获，新机型都不在中国市场卖。老外知道，他们只有机会在中国买一台，而且接着会丢失东南亚和印度市场。同一家德国公司，在德国的展会上几个技术人员晚上不出展馆（德国不像中国的展览会，一到时间就赶人，不论参观者还是参展商，全赶出去。）夜深人静的时候跑到竞争对手的展位，把人家的机箱打开，把内部结构和零配件品牌型号全拍照下来。今年春节后两家欧洲公司合并了，不知道那几个技术人员还会不会继续炫耀当年这件事。</p>
<p><strong>这是听一个朋友说的</strong><br />
在中国南方一家经营成功软件公司，为了获取竞争对手的信息，派人到竞争对手那里应聘，工作了三个月辞职，走之前把那家公司老总的硬盘COPY了。</p>
<p><strong>再讲一个故事</strong><br />
一个老同学，做精细化工的，若干年前做到业内老大，很多人窥视他们的产品配方。有一哥们儿，每天坐在那家公司对面的大排档打望，结识了仓管员小妹妹，记下来所有进出货车车牌号，请供货商的司机吃饭，几个月后，拿着一份详细的配方物料清单请我同学吃饭，问我的同学，他应该怎么处理这个配方。</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[编号的原理无非是遵循几个原则： 便于电脑化管理 单件物品有唯一号码 便于识别便于赋号（例如号码能体现采购日期或存放位置或物品种类） 联合国采购指南和海关统计分类的编号系统都可以参考。另外还可以参考《机械零件手册》，那里面有很详细的物品分类。]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>编号的原理无非是遵循几个原则：</p>
<p>便于电脑化管理<br />
单件物品有唯一号码<br />
便于识别便于赋号（例如号码能体现采购日期或存放位置或物品种类）</p>
<p>联合国采购指南和海关统计分类的编号系统都可以参考。另外还可以参考《机械零件手册》，那里面有很详细的物品分类。</p>
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		<title>买现成的，还是仿制，还是自主开发？</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 14:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tutubishop</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[买现成的，还是仿制，还是自主开发？一切都遵循客观经济规律：个人利益最大化、边际效益最大化。仿造是创新的第一步, 仿造过程本身是创新.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>买现成的，还是仿制，还是自主开发？一切都遵循客观经济规律：个人利益最大化、边际效益最大化。<br />
不同的行业会有不同的体会。<br />
就机械制造行业来说，我观察到是：</p>
<p>1）买现成的</p>
<p>买鸡（机）下蛋快，而且相对于自己孵小鸡来说经济效益更高。自己造不一定现实。<br />
* 自己造机不知道什么时候才能造出来，很可能因此市场机会就错过了。<br />
* 自己造还不一定造得出来，弄不好要受上司责怪。<br />
* 对于国有大型企业来说，从国外进口设备意味着到国外“考察”和培训的机会。即使这对于企业不是最佳决策，但是对个人来讲是更好的选择。<br />
* 关键部件需要进口，或者自己造不可能达到“国际先进水平”。<br />
* 有进口机摆在那里也是一种广告手段。<br />
这类理由还可以举出很多很多&#8230; &#8230;</p>
<p>2) 仿造</p>
<p>事实上中国的工业界到处都在仿造。有些欧美国家都不敢把最先进的机器卖到中国来，因为他们知道只要有一台这种设备在中国大陆的工厂里，很快就会有中国同行来测绘，只要有一家 Machinery 机械工厂仿制了这种设备，没多久图纸就会扩散出去，很快就会有好几家中国厂家提供同样的设备。并几年之内就以欧美设备的十分之一的价格在海外与欧洲人美国人争市场。<br />
中国作为 Copy Cat （仿冒者）的乐园，已经是“世界著名”的了。</p>
<p>3）创新</p>
<p>日本人说：“仿造是创新的第一步”。<br />
中国人说：“仿造过程本身是创新”。因为他们仿造的是国内外的新机型，对于他们自己来说，这已经是创新了。更何况仿制过程的土法上马和仿制品设计制造的简陋化，都足以让外国人惊叹中国人的创造性。</p>
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		<title>再谈创业方向和商业模式的选择</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 13:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tutubishop</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[实际上你选行业的机会并不多，绝大部分创业成功的人是行业选择了他。换一种说法，就是不熟不做，刚好你入了一个有创业机会的行业，或者你周围的亲戚朋友由不少人从事某一个行，因此你耳闻目睹熟悉了这个行业，那么你还有什么其他选择保证你能快速起步而且风险较小呢？ 好了，既然行业选择你不能有太大作为，那么是不是你就无可奈何必须走别人的老路呢？当然不是。 虽然每一个行业都有共性，但是动动脑筋，还是可以不落俗套地设计出独特的商业模式。同样做家电制造，分销渠道的设计不同，给批发商和零售商留的利润空间不同，对回款的要求不同，结果总体的运营效果都不一样。 现金流设计是商业模式里面最重要的一个方面，可是很多人谈到商业模式却忽略了这个方面。 贴牌装配的利润很低，遇到汇率波动还有很大风险，但是前些年在深圳，有几家小电子厂在五、六年内做成几万人的OEM贴牌厂，专做DVD和手机这类产品的贴牌制造，这就是现金流好的例子。 正现金流怎么得来？有很多办法，例如分期付款买物业，钱未付清就拿出去抵押贷款，如果在房地产上升周期还可以升值，升了值可以抵押到更多；再例如开了大卖场子就有工厂给商品的上架费，免费供货给场子销售，商品卖掉后或三个月后再付货款给厂家。只要上架费和上架后三个月内销售出去的金额够支付以前的货款，连锁店就可以滚动下去。 制造业也可以用类似的玩法。只要零配件供应商给两三个月的赊数期，制造商能够在一两个月内制造出来并马上收到客户的付款，那么扩张越快，现金流就越好。 郎咸平比较过国内房地产公司与香港四大地产公司的负债比，发现香港地产公司集团的负债比只有20％－30％，国内地产公司的负债比是100％多。 国内发展快的企业很多都这么玩，资金链断了就完蛋了。 如果只是玩一家单实体的企业，那么 operating cash flows （营运现金流）与 financing cash flow （融资现金流）是要分清，然后才能清楚了解企业运作是否健康。 那些个大企业集团，八个锅七个盖，只要玩得转，东方不亮西方亮，零售不赚钱可以从房地产补回来。这种玩法，在东亚和东南亚华人企业界里很普遍。 还有做VC的，投资一个高科技企业，同时控制一个上市企业，这个高科技企业没有operating cash flows没关系，上市企业没有operating cash flows 也没关系，概念炒作一下，让上市公司增发新股收购高科技企业，投资的高科技企业出售给上市公司，VC套现，然后VC就有正现金流了。 顺带说一句，不要受舆论影响，刻意追求什么高科技、朝阳行业、新兴产业。 以前还有很多人看不起低价做出口产品的血汗工厂。为什么还有那么多人愿意做？因为现金流好。有人抱怨中国工厂的利润低，利润大头都被外国人赚去了，可是人家外国客商是拿出资金来周转的，资金是要有回报的。]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>实际上你选行业的机会并不多，绝大部分创业成功的人是行业选择了他。换一种说法，就是不熟不做，刚好你入了一个有创业机会的行业，或者你周围的亲戚朋友由不少人从事某一个行，因此你耳闻目睹熟悉了这个行业，那么你还有什么其他选择保证你能快速起步而且风险较小呢？</p>
<p>好了，既然行业选择你不能有太大作为，那么是不是你就无可奈何必须走别人的老路呢？当然不是。<br />
虽然每一个行业都有共性，但是动动脑筋，还是可以不落俗套地设计出独特的商业模式。同样做家电制造，分销渠道的设计不同，给批发商和零售商留的利润空间不同，对回款的要求不同，结果总体的运营效果都不一样。</p>
<p>现金流设计是商业模式里面最重要的一个方面，可是很多人谈到商业模式却忽略了这个方面。<br />
贴牌装配的利润很低，遇到汇率波动还有很大风险，但是前些年在深圳，有几家小电子厂在五、六年内做成几万人的<a title="OEM Manufacturing" href="http://www.hardenmachinery.com/en-steel-fabrication.html" target="_blank">OEM</a>贴牌厂，专做DVD和手机这类产品的贴牌制造，这就是现金流好的例子。</p>
<p>正现金流怎么得来？有很多办法，例如分期付款买物业，钱未付清就拿出去抵押贷款，如果在房地产上升周期还可以升值，升了值可以抵押到更多；再例如开了大卖场子就有工厂给商品的上架费，免费供货给场子销售，商品卖掉后或三个月后再付货款给厂家。只要上架费和上架后三个月内销售出去的金额够支付以前的货款，连锁店就可以滚动下去。</p>
<p>制造业也可以用类似的玩法。只要零配件供应商给两三个月的赊数期，制造商能够在一两个月内制造出来并马上收到客户的付款，那么扩张越快，现金流就越好。<br />
郎咸平比较过国内房地产公司与香港四大地产公司的负债比，发现香港地产公司集团的负债比只有20％－30％，国内地产公司的负债比是100％多。<br />
国内发展快的企业很多都这么玩，资金链断了就完蛋了。</p>
<p>如果只是玩一家单实体的企业，那么 operating cash flows （营运现金流）与 financing cash flow （融资现金流）是要分清，然后才能清楚了解企业运作是否健康。<br />
那些个大企业集团，八个锅七个盖，只要玩得转，东方不亮西方亮，零售不赚钱可以从房地产补回来。这种玩法，在东亚和东南亚华人企业界里很普遍。</p>
<p>还有做VC的，投资一个高科技企业，同时控制一个上市企业，这个高科技企业没有operating cash flows没关系，上市企业没有operating cash flows 也没关系，概念炒作一下，让上市公司增发新股收购高科技企业，投资的高科技企业出售给上市公司，<a title="vc investment consulting" href="http://www.vc-investment.net">VC</a>套现，然后<a title="vc investment consulting" href="http://www.vc-investment.net">VC</a>就有正现金流了。</p>
<p>顺带说一句，不要受舆论影响，刻意追求什么高科技、朝阳行业、新兴产业。<br />
以前还有很多人看不起低价做出口产品的血汗工厂。为什么还有那么多人愿意做？因为现金流好。有人抱怨中国工厂的利润低，利润大头都被外国人赚去了，可是人家外国客商是拿出资金来周转的，资金是要有回报的。</p>
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		<title>谈创业方向和商业模式的选择</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 13:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tutubishop</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[零售业做到最后就是一堆属于供应商的货；制造业做到最后就是一堆东西（厂房和机器）； 软件业做到最后就是一堆不值钱要淘汰的电脑；服务业做到最后就是一群各奔东西大哥哥小妹妹。]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #000099; font-size: medium;"> 1） 对于没有足够资金资源的创业人来说，最好是通过合作的方式，对个方面资源进行整合。当年很多乡镇企业就是以镇政府的名义担保，向银行贷款上千万把企业建立起来的。今天虽然已经没有这支歌唱了，但是资源整合的机会还是很多，经纪人的能力很重要。</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #000099; font-size: medium;"> 2） 客户户数量有限，最好先把市场通道搞定，因为在技术水平向产不大的情况下，你不能保证一定能打败竞争对手；市场客户数量很大，你只要分其中一小部分（这个目标相对容易一些）就能把企业维持下去。  创业（或者新项目）应该先选市场，然后再选产品（技术）。最好是先找到比较有把握的订单，再想办法怎样把货（或服务）提供给客户。我见过太多的创业者，他 们满怀信心地认为自己的技术（或产品）世界先进，潜在市场极大，但是没有预见到创业的艰辛和新开发产品的稳定性保证。还有一些创业者，完全指望政府的资助 和投资公司的投资，没有想办法先把销售做起来保证起码的现金流入以立于不败之地，结果也就不多说了。</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #000099; font-size: medium;"> 3） 团队组合很重要。单枪匹马创立事业一般周期要长一些，而且也远比团队创业要累得多。我见过很多个人独资的事业有成的的老板，重要事务和关键客户都得亲自 抓，头发过早变得花白，常年没有节假日，更不用说休假或者与儿女共享天伦之乐了。讲起团队组合大家都知道能力要互补；都知道有钱出钱，有力出力；但是很多 人忽略性格互补。很多成功的创业组合是一人主外一人主内；也有一人富于激情、创新点子多长于开拓，另一人相对保守而且善于执行和收尾。合作伙伴不要太多， 两三个人最好，人多了意见不容易统一。  找合作伙伴最好要双方（或三方）的家人之间也互相熟悉，家人的潜在影响往往也是合伙事业成功的关键。</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #000099; font-size: medium;"> 4） 整合能力的价值 v.s. 技术的价值  不要动不动就拿着个技术说有多少无形资产。我现在一听别人给我讲技术（新产品）的价值就烦。  有整合能力，就算没有技术，我不会心虚，但是只有技术没有整合能力，技术将毫无价值。  成吉思汗起家就是靠的整合能力，靠他那几匹马和兄弟安达，联合一个部落吃掉另一个部落，再树立威信让更多的部落拥他做大汗。</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;"><span style="color: #000099;"> 5) 商业模式：种水稻 v.s. 种果树 ＝ Fashion／客户化软件／专用</span><a href="http://www.sisuiji.com/"><span style="color: #000099;">工业设备</span></a> <span style="color: #000099;">v.s. 男装／操作系统／ 通用工业设备／化工产品／运输  同样是做时装，做女性时装是种水稻，经营男装则是种果树。  选择商业模式与个人乐趣和生活方式有关。选择种水稻生意的人大部分是劳碌命，而选择种果树的人，一般喜欢有张有弛的工作模式。</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;"><span style="color: #000099;"> 6) 规模化复制（Scalable)  同样做环保，做环保工程是很难规模化的，做设备是有可能规模化的，做环保化工产品是更容易规模化的。 同样是做</span><a href="http://www.harden-industries.com/"><span style="color: #000099;">塑料加工机械</span></a><span style="color: #000099;">，做</span><a href="http://www.lab-extrusion.com/"><span style="color: #000099;">挤出设备</span></a><span style="color: #000099;">是不容易规模化的，而做</span><a href="http://www.labjector.com/"><span style="color: #000099;">注塑机</span></a><span style="color: #000099;">是容易规模化的。 </span> <a href="../../"><span style="color: #000099;">VC</span></a><span style="color: #000099;">一般倾向于容易规模化的项目，例如同样是媒体广告业，分众传媒与聚众传媒都获得了投资。但是做多媒体广告制做的很难获得 </span><a href="../../"><span style="color: #000099;">VC</span></a><span style="color: #000099;"> 投资。做零售也是一种可以 Scalable 的事业，比如国美电器、Home Depot、携程  大部分做项目的行业是无法 Scalable （无限复制）的，但是也有例外。例如好莱坞大片和中国的贺岁片，一下子在所有的城市和影院铺开，席卷一把大赚其钱。</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #000099; font-size: medium;"> 7) 用别人的钱交学费，在大企业获得经营经验。  很多成功的企业家都是先在行业内知名企业工作以获得经营经验和相关资源，然后才出来自己干。所以才有中国那么多的专业镇。例如中山古镇的灯饰，浙江宁波的注塑机，广东南海的建筑陶磁和建筑铝型材。  另一种方式是先做销售代理，积累了客户资源与行业经验再行进入制造业。例如恒基伟业先做名人电脑的代理，七喜电脑先做电脑零配件的分销和代理。</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #000099; font-size: medium;"> 8）创业如果用自己的钱，请先问自己能不能输得起。不要意为手头上有很好的技术就一定能成功。如果你有一百万，投资10万创业就可以输十次，如果投资100万创业，一下子就输光了。</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #000099; font-size: medium;"> 9) The target market must be big enough that you can make decent money, but small enough that potential competitors do not have strong incentives to jump into it.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #000099; font-size: medium;"> 讲了这么多，再补充一下： 要创业，先不要想自己发达后要怎么样怎么样，</span></p>
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<li><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #000099; font-size: medium;">零售业做到最后就是一堆属于供应商的货；</span></li>
<li><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #000099; font-size: medium;">制造业做到最后就是一堆东西（厂房和机器）； </span></li>
<li><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #000099; font-size: medium;">软件业做到最后就是一堆不值钱要淘汰的电脑； </span></li>
<li><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #000099; font-size: medium;">服务业做到最后就是一群各奔东西大哥哥小妹妹。</span></li>
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<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #000099; font-size: medium;">办企业，实际上是做慈善事业。对国家，是贡献GDP；对人民，是增加就业机会。</span></p>
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		<title>说说郎教授提出的6＋1产业链理论</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 12:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tutubishop</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[做生意的讲求投资收益率。你也许以为制造生意销售利润率不高，产品增值不大，但是从投资收益分析的角度来说，很多制造业的资金收益率并不低。]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="color: #000080;">什么是中国</span><a href="http://www.harden-china.com/"><span style="color: #000080;">制造</span></a><span style="color: #000080;">? 外商拿走90%利润，自己留加工费。” 我不知道这90%的“利润”是怎么算出来，不过我赚这10%的利润还是赚得挺开心的。</span></span></p>
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价值链？价值链是什么东东？我们做生意的讲求投资收益率。你也许以为我这盘生意销售利润率不高，产品增值不大，但是从投资收益分析的角度来说，我的资金收益率并不低。资金收益率怎么算？销售利润率乘上资金周转速度呀。</span></p>
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制造业是怎么一回事？你不知道吗？从进原料到出货，也就那么一个月的时间，我这资本周转得快着呢。你看那些老外买家，货在海上漂一个月，从码头到商店又要 两个多星期，等到卖出去又要等两三个星期。那钱两个月才转一圈，比我慢了一倍呢。再告诉你一个小秘密，我都是等到有了定金才会添置</span><a href="http://www.sisuiji.com/"><span style="color: #000080;">设备</span></a><span style="color: #000080;">，供应商的钱我都要压他一个月才付；收到订单我才开始生产，老外客户的L/C爽快地开过来，我一发货马上到银行贴现。明白了吧？我根本不需要周转资金。</span></span></p>
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你说我是劳动密集型，赚的是辛苦钱？劳动密集型有什么不好？你说最赚钱的是</span><a href="http://www.hardenindustry.com/"><span style="color: #000080;">R&amp;D</span></a><span style="color: #000080;">投入高的高科技？什么是高科技？软件算是高科技了吧？其实他们跟我一个鸟样，劳动密集型而已！你说价值链的大头在服务业，外国的服务业比中国发达，服务业不也是劳动密集型吗？你以为<a href="http://www.vc-investment.net">VC</a>都是傻瓜吗，要是制造业不赚钱，<a href="http://www.vc-investment.net">VC</a>们干嘛要投资中国的制造业呢？</span></span></p>
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人人都在指责中国人只顾Copy，不去搞<a href="http://www.hardentech.com/">R&amp;D</a>。其实，Copy来钱那么快，风险那么小，我有必要去搞<a href="http://www.hardenmacinery.com">R&amp;D</a>吗？俺小本经营，犯得着为了 博个喝彩，把本都押进去吗？你赞叹老外<a href="http://www.san-u-machine.com">R&amp;D</a>搞得好吗，你羡慕他在价值链上切掉一大块吗，我才不羡慕呢。你看他们养那么多研发工程师，投入那末多 钱搞不知何年才有效益的研究项目，好不容易有新产品出来了还要经历商业化过程，还要打广告教育消费者，还要Test Marketing，你以为他的费用低呀？你看那末多开发新技术新产品的，一不小心市场方向变了，再一不小心别家公司的另一种技术成为主流了，你以为投入</span> <a href="http://www.harden-industries.com/"><span style="color: #000080;">R&amp;D</span></a><span style="color: #000080;">就一定会赚钱吗？</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="color: #000080;"><br />
你说老外的零售业赚钱？利润都让他们拿去了？我怎么听说零售业也有很多破产的呢？我也到</span><a href="http://www.harden-china.com/"><span style="color: #000080;">美国</span></a><span style="color: #000080;">逛过商店，你看偌大一个门面，一天也没几个顾客进来，付那末多店面租金，压那末多货物，一天也卖不了几件东西，你以为他们赚钱容易？</span></span> <span style="color: #000080;"><br />
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		<title>“经济殖民”对中国工业的发展的贡献</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 12:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tutubishop</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[接受外来经济殖民对中国经济的发展意义很大。引进外资的真正收获不是“资”，是外资企业管理人员带来的工作态度、工艺技术与管理方法。]]></description>
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<p><span style="color: #000080; font-size: medium;">中国老工业基地有两个，一个是上海，另一个是东北。</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #000080;"><span style="font-size: medium;">中国老工业基地是怎么来的？上海的<a href="http://www.harden-industries.com/"><span style="color: #000080;">产业</span></a>工人素质英法租界和十里洋场的欧美人培养起来的，东北的<a href="http://www.hardenindustry.com/"><span style="color: #000080;">产业</span></a>工人是日本人培养起来的。</span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000080;"><span style="font-size: medium;">到了最近<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: medium;">二十多年，长三角和珠三角的工业发展起来了。</span><span style="font-size: medium;">江浙的民营企业是怎么起家的？是从上海请老师傅请技术人员教出来的，而上海的老师傅和技术人员技术继承来自解放前的半殖民地十里洋场。 珠三角产业发展功劳最大的是港资企业。当初香港人前店后厂，把工厂搬到珠三角，以香港为基地做国际贸易，</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: medium;">珠三角的</span><span style="font-size: medium;">工厂在加工、研发和管理能力上不知不觉中就和国际接轨了。</span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000080;"><span style="font-size: medium;">珠三角工业品<a href="http://www.plastics-welding.com/"><span style="color: #000080;">产品质量</span></a>为什么普遍比长三角要好一些啊？因为改革开放以来香港人、日本人和台湾人投资的工厂把珠三角本地企业的质量意识培养起来了。为什么广州化妆品品牌厂商那么多，又都那么成功啊？主要是因为有了P&amp;G这个黄埔军校。 过去十年中长三角的民企都喜欢到珠三角招聘在外企工作过的管理人员，很多内地新兴的民企老板都在珠三角外资企业打过工。</span></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #000080; font-size: medium;">那么多前外企员工在外企学了技术自己出来创业，从而把他们在外企驯良出来的工作态度和从外企学到的管理方法传播到了民企。大家都知道引资——&gt;增加GDP + 增加就业 ＋增加出口＋引进技术，实际上管理文化和工作态度的引进才是对中国工业发展其最大作用的因素。 </span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family: 宋体; color: #000080; font-size: medium;">所以说，</span><span style="font-family: Tahoma; color: #000080; font-size: medium;">接受外来经济殖民对中国经济的发展意义很大。引进外资的真正收获不是“资”，是外资企业管理人员带来的工作态度、<a href="http://www.harden-china.com/"><span style="color: #000080;">工艺技术</span></a>与管理方法。</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000080;"><span style="font-size: medium;">韩国、香港、新加坡的经济奇迹可能是因为基督教的普及, </span><span style="font-size: medium;">香港、新加坡其实是英式文化为主导 。</span></span><span style="font-family: Tahoma; color: #000080; font-size: medium;">国内经济搞得好的地方, 大部分是WASP的徒弟的徒弟 。</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family: Tahoma; color: #000080; font-size: medium;">日本师傅贷出的徒弟有：珠三角、上海、胶东、大连<br />
香港师傅带出来的徒弟主要是珠三角<br />
新加坡师傅带出来的徒弟主要是苏州，最近又收了天津和<span style="color: #000080;">广州</span>两个徒弟。</span></p>
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		<title>什么是项目？</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 12:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tutubishop</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[创业融资]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[制造业]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[project]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[成本]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[项目的三大限制条件:成本预算，时间控制，质量控制]]></description>
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<p><span style="color: #000080;"><strong>什么是项目？</strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000080;">做国内投融资，天天都听到有人说有项目。</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000080;">有人圈到一块地，想盖房子，他说：“我有一个项目”。</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000080;">有人承包了一个山头，想种果树，他说：“我有一个项目”。</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000080;">有人掌握了一个<a href="http://www.butingji-huanwangqi.com/"><span style="color: #000080;">新技术</span></a>，想创业，他说：“我有一个项目”。</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000080;">有人运营一个小公司，想融资做大，他说：“我有一个项目”。</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000080;">有人做中介，想帮别人融资，他说：“我有一个项目”。</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000080;">有人想出一个新的idea，想做成下一个Alibaba或者Google，计划书都还没写出来，他也说：“我有一个项目”。</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000080;">做一顿饭，要成本预算（肉菜配料费用），要时间控制（上菜时间），要<a href="http://www.harden-china.com/"><span style="color: #000080;">质量</span></a>控制（可口），却没有人说这是项目（</span><a href="http://www.pipe-stacking.com"><span style="color: #000080;">Project</span></a><span style="color: #000080;">）。</span></p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 06:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[选址要考虑的事项包括能源供应、道路港口交通方便和道路承载能力，员工来源充足（的别是技工和工程师），当地对污染项目的控制，土地价格，配套设施，当地政府机构的效率的，政府无偿资助等等。]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>选址要考虑的事项很多，例如能源供应、道路港口交通方便（和承载能力），员工来源充足（的别是技工和工程师），当地对污染项目的控制，土地价格，配套设施，当地政府机构的效率的，政府无偿资助等等。</p>
<p>我们的观点是：<strong>选址首先要考虑的是接近客户</strong>。这一点可能只有那些靠网上下载买软件的企业可以例外。</p>
<p><strong><em>下面我列了一个表格，你可以当做 Check List</em></strong><strong><em>， </em></strong><strong><em>自己设定重要性权重，比较一下哪个城市最适合你。</em></strong></p>
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<td width="272" valign="top"><strong>考虑因素</strong></td>
<td width="85" valign="top"><strong>重要性权重</strong></td>
<td width="54" valign="top"><strong>上海</strong></td>
<td width="54" valign="top"><strong>无锡</strong></td>
<td width="54" valign="top"><strong>宁波</strong></td>
<td width="54" valign="top"><strong>广州</strong></td>
<td width="54" valign="top"><strong>深圳</strong></td>
<td width="54" valign="top"><strong>中山</strong></td>
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<td width="272" valign="top">交通便利: 高速公路, 铁路, 空港, 海港</td>
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<td width="272" valign="top">政府办事效率</td>
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<td width="272" valign="top">通讯</td>
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<td width="272" valign="top">能源   (天然气和电力供应的稳定性)</td>
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<td width="272" valign="top">人力资源来源、培训机构</td>
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<td width="272" valign="top">客户所在地</td>
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<td width="272" valign="top">供应商所在地 (原材料来源)</td>
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<td width="272" valign="top">高等院校和技校，有没有相关专业</td>
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<td width="272" valign="top">产业集群</td>
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<td width="272" valign="top">当地环保要求</td>
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<td width="272" valign="top">银行贷款难易</td>
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<td width="272" valign="top">治安环境</td>
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<td width="272" valign="top">生活质量，居住环境</td>
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<td width="272" valign="top">成本:</td>
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<td width="272" valign="top">蓝领工资、白领工资、技术人员工资</td>
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<td width="272" valign="top">土地价格、场地租金</td>
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<td width="272" valign="top">原料价格</td>
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<td width="272" valign="top">水电天然气价格</td>
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<td width="272" valign="top">物流成本</td>
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<td width="272" valign="top">基础设施配套</td>
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<td width="272" valign="top">税收优惠政策</td>
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<td width="272" valign="top">其它政府补贴</td>
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<p>每一个项目都有其独特性，上面列出的因素不太可能样样都令投资者满意，这时只能根据权重来做选择了。</p>
<p>如果单纯是要在低成本地区建个厂降低整个营运成本，我觉得最重要的是相关行业在那个地区的成熟度，也就是 Industrial Cluster （产业集群）的概念。如果要作全面的考虑，那要考虑的问题就多了。</p>
<p>还有，如果公司会派你去建那间厂，你还得考虑你想不想去那个地方。为什么那末多外国公司愿意把点设在上海？不是因为上海是金融中心或者制造成本低，是因为上海是让老外感觉最舒服的城市。</p>
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